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It was a nine year battle of sorts... 1978-1989... for the Soviet war in Afghanistan. I found this part most interesting about the future of Afghanistan children during this time... READ IT! I think I wrote about this before, but I'm showing it to Ashish. I'd like to remind everyone where the Taliban started... The reason Eyvazov wrote this is because the USSR killed the fathers of Afghanstan with another senseless war.  According to Captain Tarlan Eyvazov, a soldier in the Soviet forces during the incursion of Afghanistan, who revealed that Afghan's children's future is destined for war. Eyvazoz said, "Children born in Afghanistan at the start of the war... have been brought up in war conditions, this is their way of life." Eyvazov's theory was later confirmed correct when the Taliban movement developed and formed from the Afghan orphans or refugee children who were forced by the Soviets to flee their homes and relocate their lives in Pakistan. The swift rise to power, from the young Taliban in 1994, was the result of the disorder and civil war that had warlords running undomesticated because of the complete breakdown of law and order in Afghanistan left behind by the Soviets. Soviet war in Afghanistan Wikipedia |
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9/20/2008 8:29 pm |
yes, and as I recall, the rebels fighting the russians were called the mujahideen and were headed by an American trained guerilla warrior named Osama Bin Laden.
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 9/20/2008 8:51 pm |
I love Afghanistan people. I dated F Ayoubi. He left me... He went home to fight in his country's civil wars. It's mandatory for men to be in the Army for two years. He stepped on a land mine. He's now dead. Why? 
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9/20/2008 8:55 pm |
yes, and as I recall, the rebels fighting the russians were called the mujahideen and were headed by an American trained guerilla warrior named Osama Bin Laden.
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9/20/2008 11:51 pm |
I should watch this place  This could turn out to be interesting   VASHALAN
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9/21/2008 12:35 am |
I forgive!
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9/21/2008 8:21 pm |
I have faith in you. You appear to speak with knowledge of the past. I challenge you, though. Please provide credible links to your words... edu or gov. I dont have any links because most information I have regarding historical events is from books or documentaries and almost none from the net.
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9/21/2008 8:35 pm |
You have to be kidding me? Why would you challenge this lol Is it because I challenged you about the license plates in that other post you made? I read a book about this war several years ago as the war was still goin on. I dont remember who the author was or the title but its pretty common knowlege that the US military trained him to fight the soviets I dont have any links because most information I have regarding historical events is from books or documentaries and almost none from the net.I'm asking because I can't find anything on the internet. I do know the USA supplied Iran with weapons of "yesteryear" back in the 80's. I can't find anything about Osama being trained by the USA.
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9/22/2008 10:36 pm |
The Taliban was raised and armed by Pakistan ISI and army with inputs from the CIA..in fact armor n artillery was operated by Pak soldiers so they were able to conquer Afghanistan in short time..evn during oct-nov 2001 as allied forces took afghanistan many pak soldiers were captured by coaltion forces...its a fact!! its all part of the great game candy...u americans wont understand geo politics of south asia
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9/23/2008 12:44 pm |
The Taliban was raised and armed by Pakistan ISI and army with inputs from the CIA..in fact armor n artillery was operated by Pak soldiers so they were able to conquer Afghanistan in short time..evn during oct-nov 2001 as allied forces took afghanistan many pak soldiers were captured by coaltion forces...its a fact!! its all part of the great game candy...u americans wont understand geo politics of south asia 
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9/24/2008 3:22 am |
I agree with most of the posts in this conversation. Both the USSR and USA screwed up Afghanistan big time. About Osama being trained by the americans even I had this info though now I cannot recollect the source newspapers or books, It definitely was not the internet.
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9/24/2008 6:19 am |
I agree with most of the posts in this conversation. Both the USSR and USA screwed up Afghanistan big time. About Osama being trained by the americans even I had this info though now I cannot recollect the source newspapers or books, It definitely was not the internet. WE CAN CHANGE THIS IF WE TRY! I know everyone loves Hillary Clinton, so I will quote her book title and then Africa, "IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD".
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9/24/2008 9:55 pm |
I'm still skeptical about "facts"... I do believe WWIII is coming. WE CAN CHANGE THIS IF WE TRY! I know everyone loves Hillary Clinton, so I will quote her book title and then Africa, "IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD". Hence WWIII or no we will always be fighting a low scale resource gizzling war like we have been doing for decades. The US realised the full horror of terrorism only when the demon landed on their shores but we have been bleeding from it for long.
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9/26/2008 9:57 pm |
I can't visualise WWIII, but I can visiualise a generation of young men from countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran who will come up with the sole objective of causing damage to US and its percieved allies. India will also be their target as it is a majority non Muslim country where there exists a large muslim population, it is a democracy and hence a natural American ally. The liberal (by their standards) society of India will be a natural enemy for their ideology. Our type of democracy and the fact that we are surrounded by countries which are rather sympathetic to their cause will always make us vulnerable. Hence WWIII or no we will always be fighting a low scale resource gizzling war like we have been doing for decades. The US realised the full horror of terrorism only when the demon landed on their shores but we have been bleeding from it for long. I'm not entirely sure India is an "allie" pursue. I hear the words spoken from many a roommate that aren't exactly kind to the US or UK. This really saddens me sometimes. I don't understand how a person can come to America and make 100K USD per year, brag about sending all the monies to India to increase their economy and boost family prosperity... yet, dislike the US. I really don't get it. It's almost as if some of these kids wanted the US to sink in a depression/recession. Once their words became reality, they are feeling the affects by losing contract jobs. The roommates friends are contemplating moving back to India, since all the "1099" jobs are drying up here. The roommates are suddenly realizing that the US is not such a bad place after all. 
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9/27/2008 7:45 am |
Additionally, look what's already been happening since 9/11/2001... off the top of my head and adding my opinions... countries already targeted... France <-- I chuckled when I read about this, since France asked for the US's help with security. Yet, they weren't willing to help the US with terrorism in 2002. Guess what, the US helped. Israel <-- Taliban tried to disrupt last year's celebrations with verbal threats, yet, nothing materialized. I'm thinking the US helped with security. We love Israel. India <-- IMO, India needs to make some serious changes with their government to get the full support of the US. I guarantee the US would love to help India. At one time, I dubbed your country little America. <-- Make me put a here people!--- Seriously, the citizens of the USA love other countries. The majority of us want to see the world succeed. We don't care if we are the "world leader" or not. It's nice to be known as the world leader, but it's not a criteria. I guarantee the citizens of the USA will still donate monies when there are world catastrophes. I did even without a job... with no income... to Myanmar. We don't want to see others suffer.
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10/8/2008 4:29 am |
Additionally, look what's already been happening since 9/11/2001... off the top of my head and adding my opinions... countries already targeted... France <-- I chuckled when I read about this, since France asked for the US's help with security. Yet, they weren't willing to help the US with terrorism in 2002. Guess what, the US helped. Israel <-- Taliban tried to disrupt last year's celebrations with verbal threats, yet, nothing materialized. I'm thinking the US helped with security. We love Israel. India <-- IMO, India needs to make some serious changes with their government to get the full support of the US. I guarantee the US would love to help India. At one time, I dubbed your country little America. <-- Make me put a here people!--- Seriously, the citizens of the USA love other countries. The majority of us want to see the world succeed. We don't care if we are the "world leader" or not. It's nice to be known as the world leader, but it's not a criteria. I guarantee the citizens of the USA will still donate monies when there are world catastrophes. I did even without a job... with no income... to Myanmar. We don't want to see others suffer. But so far as the Islamic fundamentalists are concerned they will treat India and USA and equal enemies for the similarities between these two countriesother than anything else. US though will not be as affected by this as India.
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10/9/2008 9:41 pm |
Sorry I could not respond on time as I am busy with a family function. I agree with you in terms of the feelings that most Indians have about USA. But you will be surprised that ,ost of these people when they are in India consider USA as dream land. As far as I am concerned I know that USA helped us when we were beaten black and blue by the Chinese during the war against them in 1962 whem the USSR and taken a neutral position. I am thanlful to US for this gesture. Moreover all this ill feeling is actual an outcome of political propaganda. Things will change fast now as the political imclination of India is tilting more and more towards USA. But so far as the Islamic fundamentalists are concerned they will treat India and USA and equal enemies for the similarities between these two countriesother than anything else. US though will not be as affected by this as India. I can't believe the media has made "Osama" Barack the image of world peace and future prosperity. I THINK THIS IS A VERY BAD CHOICE, BUT I AM ONLY ONE PERSON.
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10/10/2008 1:28 am |
Additionally, look what's already been happening since 9/11/2001... off the top of my head and adding my opinions... countries already targeted... France <-- I chuckled when I read about this, since France asked for the US's help with security. Yet, they weren't willing to help the US with terrorism in 2002. Guess what, the US helped. Israel <-- Taliban tried to disrupt last year's celebrations with verbal threats, yet, nothing materialized. I'm thinking the US helped with security. We love Israel. India <-- IMO, India needs to make some serious changes with their government to get the full support of the US. I guarantee the US would love to help India. At one time, I dubbed your country little America. <-- Make me put a here people!--- Seriously, the citizens of the USA love other countries. The majority of us want to see the world succeed. We don't care if we are the "world leader" or not. It's nice to be known as the world leader, but it's not a criteria. I guarantee the citizens of the USA will still donate monies when there are world catastrophes. I did even without a job... with no income... to Myanmar. We don't want to see others suffer. I think you should worry about changing your govt first. India is not sinking in debt. I am sure the citizens of the USA love other countries. No other country will sacrifice its soldiers and borrowed money to 'bring democracy' to deserving nations. World peace: I saw in news your allies were mentioning that the war in Afghanistan cannot be won and talks were needed there with Taleban. When will peace come to Iraq and Afghanistan? What will define a victory  Prosperity: Do you think it can get any worse than this? (I am sorry but actually it will. Next president won't find it easy overcoming the 'achievements' of these golden 8 years.) VASHALAN
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10/10/2008 1:57 am |
Why do you delete what you write? Cyberspace saves everything for all to see.  mrex wrote: Israel: 'Threat was there but nothing materialized'. I too think the US helped with security. After 911, the terrorists were never able to strike within the US. US security capabilities improved a lot after 911 it seems. I think you should worry about changing your govt first. India is not sinking in debt. I am sure the citizens of the USA love other countries. No other country will sacrifice its soldiers and borrowed money to 'bring democracy' to deserving nations. World peace: I saw in news your allies were mentioning that the war in Afghanistan cannot be won and talks were needed there with Taleban. When will peace come to Iraq and Afghanistan? What will define a victory Prosperity: Do you think it can get any worse than this? (I am sorry but actually it will. Next president won't find it easy overcoming the 'achievements' of these golden 8 years.)
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10/10/2008 2:01 am |
I'm now reading you post, mrex... HELLO... when the USA sinks, India sinks...  Does the Afghan War remind you of the Vietnam War? The next President! Oy Vey!
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10/10/2008 9:33 pm |
India will not sink. The Vietnam War was fought when the USA was not sinking. Right now it is not Afghan War alone but the Iraq War as well. The next President? That comes only after an election. VASHALAN
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10/12/2008 9:09 pm |
India will not sink. The Vietnam War was fought when the USA was not sinking. Right now it is not Afghan War alone but the Iraq War as well. The next President? That comes only after an election. There will never be a new change of world dominance, unless there is a WWIII. The USA will just be absorbed into a bigger "world order". I have a feeling that dominance will never be given to China, unless they become a democracy... again WWIII. I predict one of two things... 1. WWIII 2. China will slowly become a democracy with the recent taste of the Olympics and world recognition. China will become absorbed into a bigger "world order". Most think that China is the next world threat, but I don't believe it. I stress that the only world threat is Islam Extremist. With China's alliance, this terroristic behavior could be whipped out completely. I look forward to this day in HISTORY. The world can finally start focusing on SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY! 
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10/12/2008 11:36 pm |
I had a new discussion with the roommates over a week ago. I just didn't post my thoughts until now. I see my thoughts are coming true. There will never be a new change of world dominance, unless there is a WWIII. The USA will just be absorbed into a bigger "world order". I have a feeling that dominance will never be given to China, unless they become a democracy... again WWIII. I predict one of two things... 1. WWIII 2. China will slowly become a democracy with the recent taste of the Olympics and world recognition. China will become absorbed into a bigger "world order". Most think that China is the next world threat, but I don't believe it. I stress that the only world threat is Islam Extremist. With China's alliance, this terroristic behavior could be whipped out completely. I look forward to this day in HISTORY. The world can finally start focusing on SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY! Islamist extremism is the biggest danger today. But I wonder how they get all the arms? They do not manufacture these definitely. The arms factories and generally under government control and the latest weapons are manufactured in developed nations only. How do these things land up in the hands of the extremists? There sure is a way to block this and that will ensure that this scrooge is eradicated.
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10/13/2008 12:08 am |
Nothing in this world is static. I guess when USA was fighting its civil war the then super powers of the world France & Britain were not even bothered by it. Today they tow the line of USA. Tomorrow there will be some other country or an axis maybe. Islamist extremism is the biggest danger today. But I wonder how they get all the arms? They do not manufacture these definitely. The arms factories and generally under government control and the latest weapons are manufactured in developed nations only. How do these things land up in the hands of the extremists? There sure is a way to block this and that will ensure that this scrooge is eradicated. We need to get over this selfish act of greed which is tattooed in history and move on to what really matters... SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY!
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10/13/2008 12:59 am |
OMG! We had this discussion, too. Well, it was the selling of ARMS during the Cold War. I said, "If I could've sold Afghanistan $100K worth of weapons at that time, then I would've done it." It's not like the US was thinking 30 years into the future! We were only thinking of defeating Russia at the time. We need to get over this selfish act of greed which is tattooed in history and move on to what really matters... SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY!
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10/13/2008 1:56 am |
Cold war explains the arms with the Taliban, how do we explain the same with LTTE? India I suppose? I had to look this up on Wikipedia... The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE, Tamil: தமிழீழ விடுதலைப் புலிகள் ), commonly known as the Tamil Tigers, is a militant Tamil nationalist organization that has waged a violent secessionist campaign against the Sri Lankan government since the 1970s in order to create a separate, socialist, Tamil state in the north and east of Sri Lanka (formerly Ceylon). The LTTE is currently proscribed as a terrorist organization by 31 countries. It is headed by its founder, Velupillai Prabhakaran. Cousin, you will have to explain this one to me. 
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10/13/2008 2:03 am |
India will not sink. The Vietnam War was fought when the USA was not sinking. Right now it is not Afghan War alone but the Iraq War as well. The next President? That comes only after an election. The G7 (also known as the G-7 or Group of Seven) is the meeting of the finance ministers from a group of seven industrialized nations. It was formed in 1976, when Canada joined the Group of Six: France, Germany, Italy, Japan, United Kingdom, and United States of America. The finance ministers of these countries meet several times a year to discuss economic policies. Their work is supported by regular, functional meetings of officials, including the G7 Finance Deputies. The G7 held a meeting on April 11, 2008 in Washington D.C. and met again on October 10, 2008, in Washington D.C, to discuss the current global situation with the markets. The group of finance ministers has pledged to take "all necessary steps" to help stem the global financial crisis of 2007-2008.
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10/13/2008 4:07 am |
Candy We will let the topic of 'Science & Technology' sink I believe before China embrace Democracy, the US will become socialist. Already nationalized your Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, AIG etc etc.. Didn't you hear that Hugo Chavez was fondly referring to your President as Comrade Bush for this bold nationalization? I specifically mentioned your election because when the bail out package was being discussed, one member is reportedly said that there was the threat of martial law coming in to effect if the bill was not passed. (search for 'martial law and bail out package' ) Within a few years(less than 10 years), G7 will lose its relevance. VASHALAN
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10/13/2008 9:16 pm |
OUCH! I had to look this up on Wikipedia... The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE, Tamil: தமிழீழ விடுதலைப் புலிகள் ), commonly known as the Tamil Tigers, is a militant Tamil nationalist organization that has waged a violent secessionist campaign against the Sri Lankan government since the 1970s in order to create a separate, socialist, Tamil state in the north and east of Sri Lanka (formerly Ceylon). The LTTE is currently proscribed as a terrorist organization by 31 countries. It is headed by its founder, Velupillai Prabhakaran. Cousin, you will have to explain this one to me. Soon the LTTE turned into a ferocious fighting machine taking on the might of the Sri Lankan army. They even have a navy of sorts. However things started changing once Rajiv Gandhi (the then Indian PM) initiated a peace move in SL and sent Indian peace keeping force to implement it. Something in this initiative lead to the fall out between India and the LTTE. The LTTE turned against India and finally managed to assasinate Rajiv Gandhi when he was making a bid to come back to power again. Question is who is still supplying arms and trainning to the LTTE since their fall out with India?
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