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Soon to be heated conversation... created this blog to discuss in depth... Hinduism is a religion; it's just not organized. Hinduism is closely related to the Abrahamic religions. I've wrote about this before. Correct me if I'm wrong, Hinduism has only one main God, but many "sub Gods". This is very similar to let's say the Catholic religion; there is one God but many Saints or "sub Gods". Please compare the Saints to Hinduism's "sub Gods". You will find that they are similar or exactly the same in nature. I can do this same comparison with Judaism and Muslim. |
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10/20/2008 9:28 am |
candy..i agree to your view abt religion... Hindus by nature are always apprehensive abt the fury of God and his subordinates... all religions per se are same, except a few minor variations. Flirting in cyberia is friendly ,fun n safe
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 10/20/2008 10:02 am |
candy..i agree to your view abt religion... Hindus by nature are always apprehensive abt the fury of God and his subordinates... all religions per se are same, except a few minor variations.
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10/20/2008 11:06 am |
THE RELIGION IS HINDUISM ......NOT HINDU..... JUST AS THE RELIGION IS CHRISTIANITY ..NOT CHRISTIAN....... JUDAISM .....NOT JEWS ..... ISLAM NOT ...MUSLIMS..... BUDDHISM ....NOT BUDDHISTS..... THE LATTER ARE THE PEOPLE WHO PROFESS THE RELIGION......... GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT FIRST....  cutessyy....for sure.....
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10/20/2008 4:46 pm |
THE RELIGION IS HINDUISM ......NOT HINDU..... JUST AS THE RELIGION IS CHRISTIANITY ..NOT CHRISTIAN....... JUDAISM .....NOT JEWS ..... ISLAM NOT ...MUSLIMS..... BUDDHISM ....NOT BUDDHISTS..... THE LATTER ARE THE PEOPLE WHO PROFESS THE RELIGION......... GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT FIRST....
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10/20/2008 9:01 pm |
The faith is "Sanatan (meaning never ending) Dharma (way of life)". Hinduism: the name comes from the word "Hindu" used by the Arabic muslim settlers who conquered and established settlements in the Sindh province (today in Pakistan where Benazir Bhutto was from), about a century before the Afghans establised Islamic dominion of the Indian heartland, to describe all native inhabitants of this region. Incidentally these inhabitants were not followers of Islam and so their religion was also called as Hindu/Hinduism in english. This faith has evolved itself thru' ages and has engulfed many philosophies and worships from others with which it came in touch. It can be compared to a flowing river that finds its path to the Ocean no matter how many tributaries join or leave it or how many bends it has to take. It is not an organisation or cult and hence it is not supposed to be organised. It is basically an assimilation of various philosophies. Hence, one who believes in "Ram" as God is as much a "Hindu" as one who does not even believe in the standard practices of the present day form of this faith. It has no mandatory rules that one has to Go to the temples to pray on any designated day. It has no One messiah. You can be a follower of different philosophies but still be a Hindu. Many of the rituals and dieties that we encounter in this faith today did not even exists during its early days. "Indra" was a very prominent deity as per the verses of the "Rig Veda". Today there is not a single temple or "puja" (worship) dedicated to this deity. In one of the rituals we are required to perform "Shrad" (comes from the word Shradha meaning respect) after the death of paranets, children and other such blood relatives. It basically tries to ensure peace and well bieng of their soul. At the initiation of this ritual one has to offer "shrad" to all souls who have nobody who can do this ritual for them and only then do you get to offer the same for the person for whom the ritual is intended. This shows the immensity of the thoughts on which this faith is founded. It is commonly believed to be a religion but one has to delve deeper into its genesis to understand that it is a treasure trove of philosophies. I do not have knowledge of the language "Sanskrit" which has been used to record these thoughts and hence I am handicapped to a large extent ifrom being introduced to the various philosophies that are the streams and tributaries of this river. And finally since this is not a cult that predominantly has one philosophy it cannot be organised as a cult.
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10/20/2008 10:11 pm |
Candy.. im a giving few points as below. Hiduism is comes from sannatna dhhma (odlest relion of world) or stantan dhhma is hiduism Hinduism justgo though 2 step.No 1 Sagun(idol worship)or dialectism in other word we may say creator and creation NO 2 Nirgun (just God) or we may say god within us or god within exitance Traditions Of Saints...exits in hinduism too.....there are many saints in this tradition like saint tulsi das,sait chiatnya maha parbhu... Word sub God sound its self incorrect.I MAY agrre with reflcation of same light same power ..every where. In long history of of Hinduism...u may find..there , some errors...because hinduism is like a ocean.in which many rivers are coming from thousands years...if ur seeker if will find every thing in this ocean be assured thanks Alok
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10/20/2008 11:29 pm |
NO OTHER RELIGON, IS AS ORGANIZED, AS THE HINDU RELIGION. THE HINDU RELIGON IS THE BASE, OF ALL RELIGONS,OF THE WORLD. The GOD in ME greets The GOD in U.
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10/21/2008 2:03 am |
Hinduism or rather Sanatan is not a religion - it is a way of life. There is nothing to organize because essentially we have our creator who manifests in various forms (commonly known as several Gods) to signify different aspects of life such as strength, knowledge, wealth, peace, etc. There is so much to this that it is impossible to write about it here, but I have say k4us and rasbehari have put it quite aptly. There are many, many books that will give you an insight into this way of life. I'm just reading Yogic Secrets of the Dark Goddess and trust me, I'm learning so much from it and I'm a Satatan (HINDU) by birth! Love and Light, JKM
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10/21/2008 10:04 am |
WOW, this is a lot of great information to absorb! Thanks to all to help educate me. I did not know about the term Satatan. I will certainly search for more information about this topic. I'm very interested in "religious" studies. 
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10/22/2008 9:40 pm |
Candygram, Hinduism is not just a religion but a way of life for many. This religion is very well organized and the meltdown is due to the sprouting of many more sects such as Sikhs,Jains, Buddhists etc.
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10/23/2008 2:20 pm |
Candygram, Hinduism is not just a religion but a way of life for many. This religion is very well organized and the meltdown is due to the sprouting of many more sects such as Sikhs,Jains, Buddhists etc. Here's some statistics, as of August 2007: Christianity: 2.1 billion Islam: 1.5 billion Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion Hinduism: 900 million Chinese traditional religion: 394 million Buddhism: 376 million primal-indigenous: 300 million African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million Sikhism: 23 million Juche: 19 million Spiritism: 15 million Judaism: 14 million Baha'i: 7 million Jainism: 4.2 million Shinto: 4 million Cao Dai: 4 million Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million Tenrikyo: 2 million Neo-Paganism: 1 million Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand Rastafarianism: 600 thousand 33% Christianity (Catholic, Protestant, Eastern Orthodox, Pentecostal, Anglican, Monophysite, AICs, Latter-day Saints, Evangelical, SDAs, Jehovah's Witnesses, Quakers, AOG, nominal, etc.) 21% Islam (Shiite, Sunni, etc.) 16% Nonreligious (Agnostic, Atheist, Secular Humanists, etc.) 14% Hinduism 6% Primal-Indigenous (including African Traditional/Diasporic) 6% Chinese Traditional 6% Buddhism 0.36% Sikhism 0.22% Judaism NOTE: Total adds up to more than 100% due to rounding and because upper bound estimates were used for each group.
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10/23/2008 8:53 pm |
Christians do the same thing with "sects" (Catholic, Presbyterian, Methodist, Lutheran, Pentecostal, etc...), but they are all still considered Christians. Here's some statistics, as of August 2007: Christianity: 2.1 billion Islam: 1.5 billion Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion Hinduism: 900 million Chinese traditional religion: 394 million Buddhism: 376 million primal-indigenous: 300 million African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million Sikhism: 23 million Juche: 19 million Spiritism: 15 million Judaism: 14 million Baha'i: 7 million Jainism: 4.2 million Shinto: 4 million Cao Dai: 4 million Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million Tenrikyo: 2 million Neo-Paganism: 1 million Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand Rastafarianism: 600 thousand 33% Christianity (Catholic, Protestant, Eastern Orthodox, Pentecostal, Anglican, Monophysite, AICs, Latter-day Saints, Evangelical, SDAs, Jehovah's Witnesses, Quakers, AOG, nominal, etc.) 21% Islam (Shiite, Sunni, etc.) 16% Nonreligious (Agnostic, Atheist, Secular Humanists, etc.) 14% Hinduism 6% Primal-Indigenous (including African Traditional/Diasporic) 6% Chinese Traditional 6% Buddhism 0.36% Sikhism 0.22% Judaism NOTE: Total adds up to more than 100 0ue to rounding and because upper bound estimates were used for each group. Till recently there was no concept of conversation into the Hindu way of life. One who leaves this way of life leaves for ever. There exists no process (the believe is absent) of converting a non believer into this way of life. For the two most popular religions Christianity and Islam conversation (employing all means) is rampant.
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10/24/2008 5:04 am |
Good stats. Till recently there was no concept of conversation into the Hindu way of life. One who leaves this way of life leaves for ever. There exists no process (the believe is absent) of converting a non believer into this way of life. For the two most popular religions Christianity and Islam conversation (employing all means) is rampant.  1. My friends ex-fiance converted to Islam; she was Hindu. He couldn't deal with her leaving the faith; he's Hindu. 2. My friend, Mehul, considers himself Atheist; he "was" Hindu. His wife is still Hindu; she's British born of Indian heritage. He stills wears the Hindu garments when attending Hindu weddings. There are tons of American people that convert to some aspect of Hinduism (mostly Buddhism) each and every year. The Beatles made it popular in the 60's. There are tons of Indians who convert to other religions each and every year. I'm in the Non-Religious category. I don't like being labeled, unless it's called Human Race. 
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10/27/2008 2:35 am |
I know a couple of examples for leaving... I think... 1. My friends ex-fiance converted to Islam; she was Hindu. He couldn't deal with her leaving the faith; he's Hindu. 2. My friend, Mehul, considers himself Atheist; he "was" Hindu. His wife is still Hindu; she's British born of Indian heritage. He stills wears the Hindu garments when attending Hindu weddings. There are tons of American people that convert to some aspect of Hinduism (mostly Buddhism) each and every year. The Beatles made it popular in the 60's. There are tons of Indians who convert to other religions each and every year. I'm in the Non-Religious category. I don't like being labeled, unless it's called Human Race. Of late convertion in Hindu way of life has also started. It started with one of the sects of this way of life "The Vaishnavas" or worshippers of "Vishnu". The Beatles are examples of this. Actually this Sanatan Dharm started in ancient times hwne the concept of strict religious loyalties and the concept of one up manship between the various religious ideologies were unknown quantities; this probably explains the lack of process for conversation. The Hindus first gaced the concept of conversation with the advent of Islam in India. I also belong to the Human Race sect of any religion.
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10/27/2008 10:59 am |
If I am correct one of the several philosophies of the Sanatan way of life also includes those who do not believe in God popularly called "Atheist". Of late convertion in Hindu way of life has also started. It started with one of the sects of this way of life "The Vaishnavas" or worshippers of "Vishnu". The Beatles are examples of this. Actually this Sanatan Dharm started in ancient times hwne the concept of strict religious loyalties and the concept of one up manship between the various religious ideologies were unknown quantities; this probably explains the lack of process for conversation. The Hindus first gaced the concept of conversation with the advent of Islam in India. I also belong to the Human Race sect of any religion. I think we should start a new religion called the Human Race. So far, there are two members.
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10/28/2008 9:41 pm |
Don't forget about Indians converting to Christianity and Judiasm. I think we should start a new religion called the Human Race. So far, there are two members.
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10/30/2008 2:30 pm |
Smaller the better, keeps the weeds away. 
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11/2/2008 8:49 pm |
I don't know why, but I think about religion a lot. I fear the radical "off springs" will bring our advancement to a stand still.
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11/2/2008 8:58 pm |
However I must admit that I haven't delved much into this concept of yugas.
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11/8/2008 12:04 am |
However I must admit that I haven't delved much into this concept of yugas.
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11/9/2008 9:28 pm |
Does it really matter now? Obamanism is taking over the world with China's consent. Oy vey!
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11/9/2008 9:59 pm |
All this hype might make things more difficult for your Pres elect. Oh, well. I saw the same thing happen with President Clinton. President Clinton, in my eyes, is the catalyst to the world's economy downfall. No one's researched this, yet, to see the coorelation. I wish someone would... some key issues to research are the Telecommunications Act and FMLA. I just don't understand why people pick someone to lead who only provides a "band-aid" fix; these leaders never look long term to ensure a future for our children's children. I want someone who will heal the problem completely! Unfortunately, healing takes time. People are to used to quickness, so they would rather criticize than accept a beautiful beginning. This is one huge difference between the Democrats and Republicans. 
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11/9/2008 10:05 pm |
FYI... Who was America's first President to be impeached? Andrew Johnson, the seventeenth President of the United States, held office from 1865 to 1869, but his term was almost shorter as he became the first American President to be impeached. In 1868 the House of Representatives impeached Andrew Johnson due to his views on the south and the Confederates, but he was acquitted by a single vote. The only other President to be impeached was Bill Clinton on December 19 1998 by the House of Representatives on grounds of perjury. Bill Clinton was also acquitted, there have not been any successful impeachments of American Presidents to this date. Richard Nixon was facing imminent impeachment but resigned before the proceedings took place.
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11/10/2008 2:43 am |
FYI... Who was America's first President to be impeached? Andrew Johnson, the seventeenth President of the United States, held office from 1865 to 1869, but his term was almost shorter as he became the first American President to be impeached. In 1868 the House of Representatives impeached Andrew Johnson due to his views on the south and the Confederates, but he was acquitted by a single vote. The only other President to be impeached was Bill Clinton on December 19 1998 by the House of Representatives on grounds of perjury. Bill Clinton was also acquitted, there have not been any successful impeachments of American Presidents to this date. Richard Nixon was facing imminent impeachment but resigned before the proceedings took place.
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11/10/2008 8:24 pm |
You'r right, the quick fix philosophy getting the nod in world politics is a matter of great concern.  I mean, when China takes over as the next World Power.
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11/11/2008 12:33 am |
Nothing is ever a quick fix... trust me... there are always consequences.... we won't see them for another 4-8 years from now. It's only going to get worse, because no one is addressing the true problems of today's society. I'm so glad I will be gone by the time everything hits the fan. I mean, when China takes over as the next World Power. I agree with you nothing is quick fix there has to be a consequence that will be paid either today or tomorrow. The state of my country reflects that and it is going to keep on reflecting that. But whether China or some other country replaces US as the super power the replacement is a foregone conclusion: as per the natural law all things have to change. If you climg up you have to climb down.
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11/11/2008 6:36 pm |
Sweet, I agree with you nothing is quick fix there has to be a consequence that will be paid either today or tomorrow. The state of my country reflects that and it is going to keep on reflecting that. But whether China or some other country replaces US as the super power the replacement is a foregone conclusion: as per the natural law all things have to change. If you climg up you have to climb down. A: Your age!
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11/11/2008 8:34 pm |
Q: What's the only thing that goes up and never comes down? A: Your age! But come to think of change of super power, China as SP is very bad news for India. Ther are huge differences between the two countries regading territory.
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11/12/2008 5:04 pm |
Good you gave the answer else I would have been pondering over it. But come to think of change of super power, China as SP is very bad news for India. Ther are huge differences between the two countries regading territory.
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11/12/2008 8:58 pm |
I know, and I'm sorry for my country letting the world down with the "new" direction. I'm so very sorry.
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11/14/2008 5:00 pm |
Finally a man has to fend for himself, I mean if China really does make it to being a SP India has to look after itself. FYI, certain Catholic churches are having a real hard time adjusting to an Elect President who is in favor of Abortions. Weird, this is the only part of the democratic ideology that I agree with. There is one church in particular that made patrons go to confession before going to mass. I'm confused about this whole election, but I still believe my choice for McCain was correct. Mehul thinks I will change my mind in 1 years time. I don't think so. I am undecided now with no thoughts what-so-ever.
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 11/16/2008 10:55 am |
Christians do the same thing with "sects" (Catholic, Presbyterian, Methodist, Lutheran, Pentecostal, etc...), but they are all still considered Christians. Here's some statistics, as of August 2007: Christianity: 2.1 billion Islam: 1.5 billion Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion Hinduism: 900 million Chinese traditional religion: 394 million Buddhism: 376 million primal-indigenous: 300 million African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million Sikhism: 23 million Juche: 19 million Spiritism: 15 million Judaism: 14 million Baha'i: 7 million Jainism: 4.2 million Shinto: 4 million Cao Dai: 4 million Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million Tenrikyo: 2 million Neo-Paganism: 1 million Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand Rastafarianism: 600 thousand 33% Christianity (Catholic, Protestant, Eastern Orthodox, Pentecostal, Anglican, Monophysite, AICs, Latter-day Saints, Evangelical, SDAs, Jehovah's Witnesses, Quakers, AOG, nominal, etc.) 21% Islam (Shiite, Sunni, etc.) 16% Nonreligious (Agnostic, Atheist, Secular Humanists, etc.) 14% Hinduism 6% Primal-Indigenous (including African Traditional/Diasporic) 6% Chinese Traditional 6% Buddhism 0.36% Sikhism 0.22% Judaism NOTE: Total adds up to more than 100 0ue to rounding and because upper bound estimates were used for each group. With Love......always AND in all ways!!!!!!
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11/16/2008 11:02 am |
Thank you! I wish someone would write a book that is fun and easy to read about the similarities between the major religions. People would then see that we are more similar than different with our "beliefs". Perhaps wars would end with this acceptance or "minor variations". With Love......always AND in all ways!!!!!!
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11/16/2008 1:45 pm |
your stats are wrong candy..... from day one there are too many agnosts ....like me .......when there is a YES... there is always a NO......just go through WHY I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN? ...by Russell and WHAT RELIGION IS? by Vivekananda....... Thanks for the reading material suggestions. I'll look into it soon. I've been busy with work. I'd love to know more about this subject, though. 
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11/16/2008 1:48 pm |
i think you can read Fritjof Capra's The Tao Of Physics.....and also The History Of Philosophy by Will Durand........Well.....if every HUMAN mind thinks like you THERE WILL BE NO WAR .... and no need for a GOD or A NATION.......let the seed that is sown grow....flourish and nourish......
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11/16/2008 9:29 pm |
With President Elect Obama, I have a feeling China will cease future "world power" for now. I have a feeling Obama will make an alliance of some sorts. I predict free trade, etc... with China. I suppose this is a good thing for our future. Actually, this is what I was wanting all along. I wish China liked McCain as much as they like Obama. FYI, certain Catholic churches are having a real hard time adjusting to an Elect President who is in favor of Abortions. Weird, this is the only part of the democratic ideology that I agree with. There is one church in particular that made patrons go to confession before going to mass. I'm confused about this whole election, but I still believe my choice for McCain was correct. Mehul thinks I will change my mind in 1 years time. I don't think so. I am undecided now with no thoughts what-so-ever.
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11/17/2008 6:49 am |
US indulgence for both China and Pakistan have been quite alarming for us all thru'. You do understand that I want to make you mine.
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11/17/2008 10:30 am |
Can I add you to the new religion called the Human Race? We only love and not hate. We put monies into technology and education for everyone, not just the young. I should start a new blog entry to get more supporters. With Love......always AND in all ways!!!!!!
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11/17/2008 8:50 pm |
Don't worry, the USA will never intentionally harm India; stuff happening now is unavoidable with "politics". The world will always need India as a great resource in many areas. I believe America will be India's biggest alliance soon. I trust those in power understand the greatness of India. You have such bright and intellectual people. India has such a thirst for advancement. It's so refreshing to see a country grow in real-time, as opposed to reading a history book. I call India... little America but "spicier". The Indian people are so passionate about everything. You do understand that I want to make you mine. So far as I being yours you already have the confirmation with you. Don't you?
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11/21/2008 7:38 pm |
India in my eyes has unlimited potential, but there are a few major internal enemies which she has to beat to rise to her potential, propensity to break rules and corruption are the main ones. So far as I being yours you already have the confirmation with you. Don't you? India needs to start a NEW POLITICAL PARTY against corruption. They need someone to promote INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL GROWTH. I thought about doing it myself, but YOU have such bright people in your Country already. Why would you need an outsider to help or lead you? This is what confuses me about your Country. India has everything going for it. In the long run, I fear, internal politic's and their selfishness will keep you down.
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11/23/2008 8:29 pm |
As I tell my roommates and former roommates, who still love me, YOU NEED TO CHANGE INDIA's INTERNAL POLITICS FIRST. This is the only thing stopping your great Country from moving forward with time along the rest of the WORLD's timeline. India needs to start a NEW POLITICAL PARTY against corruption. They need someone to promote INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL GROWTH. I thought about doing it myself, but YOU have such bright people in your Country already. Why would you need an outsider to help or lead you? This is what confuses me about your Country. India has everything going for it. In the long run, I fear, internal politic's and their selfishness will keep you down. I recollect one of Adolf Hitler's views about this parliamentary democracy in which he opines - the system is such that it encourages inferior quality material. As the people in power invariably encourage people lesser than them for the fear of loosing their position of pre-eminence. This gives rise to a supply line that churns out increasingly poorer quality material.
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11/26/2008 5:31 pm |
Our politicians are not from Mars, they are prodicts of our society. We get leaders like the people we breed. I recollect one of Adolf Hitler's views about this parliamentary democracy in which he opines - the system is such that it encourages inferior quality material. As the people in power invariably encourage people lesser than them for the fear of loosing their position of pre-eminence. This gives rise to a supply line that churns out increasingly poorer quality material. From what I hear, read and understand, the US is not entirely receptive of today's Indian government. I read between the lines and understand that there needs to be some serious changes before your Country can progress. I'm not saying this to make fun; I'm being honest with today's beliefs. I love your Country, but there are some serious internal issues that need to be addresses before progression can begin. You've come so far, but you still remain so far behind. It's sad!
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11/26/2008 8:28 pm |
So what you are saying is that you need an outsider to help facilitate? I can see this need, but who will step up to the plate? From what I hear, read and understand, the US is not entirely receptive of today's Indian government. I read between the lines and understand that there needs to be some serious changes before your Country can progress. I'm not saying this to make fun; I'm being honest with today's beliefs. I love your Country, but there are some serious internal issues that need to be addresses before progression can begin. You've come so far, but you still remain so far behind. It's sad! Today thinks like sex, exposure of body etc. are considered to be social taboos. Make things like corruption, indicipline and not being punctual taboos. In an earlier entry I mentioned Dr. Radhakrishnan. According to him: Thoughts give rise to action, Action to habits, Habits to behaviour, Behaviour to character & Character to destiny.
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