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LOGIC, REALITY, PRESENCE OF MIND, and TIME TO THINK
JaiKaaliMa
11/1/2008 12:17 pm

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12/11/2008 8:57 am

Many years ago in a small Indian village,

A farmer had the misfortune Of owing a large sum of money to a village moneylender.

The Moneylender, who was old and ugly, fancied the farmer's beautiful Daughter. So he proposed a bargain.

He said he would forgo the farmer's debt if he could marry his Daughter. Both the farmer and his daughter were horrified by the Proposal.

So the cunning money-lender suggested that they let Providence decide the matter.

He told them that he would put a black Pebble and a white pebble into an empty money bag. Then the girl would Have to pick one pebble from the bag.

1) If she picked the black pebble, she would become his wife and her father's debt would be forgiven.

2) If she picked the white pebble she need not marry him and her father's debt would still be forgiven.

3) But if she refused to pick a pebble, her father would be thrown into Jail.

They were standing on a pebble strewn path in the farmer's field. As They talked, the moneylender bent over to pick up two pebbles. As he Picked them up, the sharp-eyed girl noticed that he had picked up two Black pebbles and put them into the bag.

He then asked the girl to pick A pebble from the bag.

Now, imagine that you were standing in the field. What would you have Done if you were the girl? If you had to advise her, what would you Have told her?

Careful analysis would produce three possibilities:

1. The girl should refuse to take a pebble.

2. The girl should show that there were two black pebbles in the bag And expose the money-lender as a cheat.

3. The girl should pick a black pebble and sacrifice herself in order To save her father from his debt and imprisonment.

Take a moment to ponder over the story. The above story is used with The hope that it will make us appreciate the difference between lateral And logical thinking.

The girl's dilemma cannot be solved with Traditional logical thinking. Think of the consequences if she chooses

The above logical answers.

What would you recommend to the Girl to do?

Well, here is what she did ....

The girl put her hand into the moneybag and drew out a pebble. Without Looking at it, she fumbled and let it fall onto the pebble-strewn path Where it immediately became lost among all the other pebbles.

'Oh, how clumsy of me,' she said. 'But never mind, if you look into the Bag for the one that is left, you will be able to tell which pebble I Picked.'

Since the remaining pebble is black, it must be assumed that she had Picked the white one. And since the money-lender dared not admit his Dishonesty, the girl changed what seemed an impossible situation into An extremely advantageous one.

MORAL OF THE STORY:

Most complex problems do have a solution. It is only that we don't Attempt to think.
foxxxfireehottie
850 posts 

11/1/2008 2:57 pm

loved the blog! thanks for sharing it JKM.

~~~~don't just count your blessings....share them~~~~

Peregrin20
184 posts 

11/1/2008 8:14 pm

Easy solution since she knew there were two black pebbles.
What would she do if she didn't have that knowledge ?

Pragmatic_Crux
942 posts 

11/2/2008 4:50 am

aha !!!

pretty smart , guess i should get some tips from her on logistics solution as well what say KP

cuanup2
121 posts 

11/2/2008 6:31 am

Digital Logic fails to find the best solution here and practical logic triumphs !!!

"Man's greatest asset is the unsettled mind." - Isaac Asimov

bom09821108110
445 posts 

11/3/2008 6:29 am

Well, reading your blog half way, when you asked the first question, I was going to reply that, the girl should have kept a spare white pebble in her hand replacing the black with the white. beside your answer was not bad too.

JaiKaaliMa
740 posts 

11/3/2008 6:45 am

Hmmm...Peregrin, Praggy, Cuanup, bom.....Well, I suppose another solution would have been for the Father or the girl to make this fraud SHOW the pebbles and then put them in the bag in THEIR presence....what do you think?

bad1waiting
457 posts 

11/3/2008 7:37 am

Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!!
Even though bom had another solution to it. . .. .the girl was a lot smarter with the logic part!!!
And YESSSSSS you're right most complex problems do have a solution!!

Dig this blog hun!!
Keep it coming!!
GOD be with ya ALWAYS!!!!!!

Peregrin20
184 posts 

11/3/2008 8:53 am

    Quoting JaiKaaliMa:
    Hmmm...Peregrin, Praggy, Cuanup, bom.....Well, I suppose another solution would have been for the Father or the girl to make this fraud SHOW the pebbles and then put them in the bag in THEIR presence....what do you think?
Yes Jkm, in combination with Bom's solution, that could work.

Alternatively, have a heavy cosh standing by, and somewhere quiet to stow the body...

JaiKaaliMa
740 posts 

11/3/2008 9:19 am

Foxy....Glad you liked it....just figured it was some food for thought.....

JaiKaaliMa
740 posts 

11/3/2008 9:21 am

    Quoting bad1waiting:
    Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!!
    Even though bom had another solution to it. . .. .the girl was a lot smarter with the logic part!!!
    And YESSSSSS you're right most complex problems do have a solution!!

    Dig this blog hun!!
    Keep it coming!!
    GOD be with ya ALWAYS!!!!!!
bad1... We humans do tend to complicate things in our own minds...perhaps because we let our minds race ahead of ourselves...

cuanup2
121 posts 

11/3/2008 11:06 am

Well i'm kind of thinking why didn't the jury put the right pebbles inside the bag in first place and let the "cunning" moneylender pick it. Seems to me that the jury was already biased. If that's the case exposing the fraud was no good, who's gonna listen to a poor farmer anyways then....

"Man's greatest asset is the unsettled mind." - Isaac Asimov

JaiKaaliMa
740 posts 

11/4/2008 10:50 am

    Quoting Peregrin20:
    Yes Jkm, in combination with Bom's solution, that could work.

    Alternatively, have a heavy cosh standing by, and somewhere quiet to stow the body...

Peregrin....Hehehehe...politically incorrect, but under the circumstances, not entirely evil

JaiKaaliMa
740 posts 

11/4/2008 10:53 am

    Quoting cuanup2:
    Well i'm kind of thinking why didn't the jury put the right pebbles inside the bag in first place and let the "cunning" moneylender pick it. Seems to me that the jury was already biased. If that's the case exposing the fraud was no good, who's gonna listen to a poor farmer anyways then....
Cuanup....But there was no jury! It was just the three of them...and you're right, who'd listen to a poor farmer anyway...so the responsibility lay on the farmer and his daughters ability to figure a way out.

cuanup2
121 posts 

11/5/2008 1:23 am

Quoted from above ""So the cunning money-lender suggested that they let Providence decide the matter.""

Providence === 1)the prudence and care exercised by someone in the management of resources

i thought that it stood for the jury ppl.... maybe its the second meaning

Providence ==2)God, esp. when conceived as omnisciently directing the universe and the affairs of humankind with wise benevolence.

Then everything fits in ,,Lord saved the girl giving her wisdom and a pair of sharp eyes ,,,Amen


"Man's greatest asset is the unsettled mind." - Isaac Asimov

JaiKaaliMa
740 posts 

11/5/2008 7:06 am

Yup Cuanup....Providence in this case would be God, luck, destiny...and I do believe that if one has faith, then even the WORST situation can be turned around, though I agree, sometimes it might not happen immediately. So yeah, the powers that be did save her ... lucky gal!

cuanup2
121 posts 

11/5/2008 9:12 am

point taken

"Man's greatest asset is the unsettled mind." - Isaac Asimov

kissore1234
52 posts 

11/9/2008 8:00 pm

u made it fantastic.It gives solutions to many liek situations.Jai Kaali Maa

trust57
6 posts 

11/10/2008 6:45 pm

Ha ha ha
If i were that gal I would have Scratched mah leg pick up a white pebble and pretended pullin the white one out.
You look betta without them shades mah opinion

JaiKaaliMa
740 posts 

11/10/2008 10:58 pm

Kissore....Ah but there are so many other options...if we only give it some thought....think, think

JaiKaaliMa
740 posts 

11/10/2008 11:02 pm

    Quoting trust57:
    Ha ha ha
    If i were that gal I would have Scratched mah leg pick up a white pebble and pretended pullin the white one out.
    You look betta without them shades mah opinion
Trust...Very true...OR, she could have already had a white pebble in her hand or up her sleeve which could have dropped into the bag ... by mistake of course)....and then she could have pulled it out...the creep wouldn't have had the guts to admit there were still two black ones in the bag, right?

You really think I oughtta take 'em shades off? I trust your judgement so will do it soon

Huggs

actionking33
86 posts 

12/5/2008 10:05 am

Village girls think better than most of the readers.

JaiKaaliMa
740 posts 

12/11/2008 8:57 am

Action...Oh I'm sure most of our readers would come up with equally good if not better ideas if they were to be in that position

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