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It has been months now since I have been contemplating if I should or should not write about my experience with men from IFF. I have finally decided that I should to let other women be aware so these men cannot cheat or lie to other women as they will be aware. Despite the fact that I have been extremly selective and refuse to communicate with those who are not what Im seeking and those who are not in KL and would only consider those who are at least visiting KL and seeking the same, still I was not spared the liars and cheats. Its amazing how low a man would stoop to get what he wants. During the past years, despite receiving many mails, I had only agreed to meet 2 men from IFF and this is what happened. The first one was approximately 3 years ago, will not give his full name but goes by A. Kharey, age 54 at that time. This person contacted me and we started chatting online and he told me he was having problems with his wife who has left him to go back to her ex boyfriend. As my profile is very clear Im seeking a life partner, he assured me that he was serious and very interested and was even coming to Malaysia as he deals in furnitures which he gets from Malaysia and China etc. Little did I know that this guy was a lying cheating scumbag who has just planning to have some fun and seeking someone he could make use of during his stay in Malaysia. Of course I believed him, we met and spend lots of time together. During the time, even when he went to china and then back to indian, we communicated frequently by phone and emails and also chat. He kept telling me how his wife betrayed him and how happy he was to have met me, and that he cant wait to spend the rest of his life with me. Of course I believe him. He visited Malaysia a few more time, and we spend whatever free time together. Then after 3 or 4 visits, on the next visit, he asked me to cook for him which I did, a total of 5 dishes including delicious dry mutton which he said was his favourite. You girls will not believe what he did, he never showed up. Of course I was pissed of, he did come to malaysia but had a business appointment and was off again. He kept apologising for it, which I finally accepted and promised to meet the next time he comes with his son who is suppose to stay in Malaysia a couple of months to learn the trade. This time instead, he comes with his son and wife and claims that the wife is here to set up the apartment for the son. How rediculous. It was then that I knew this guy had been lying to me and he was never separated from his wife and neither was he getting a divorce. It was all just a lie. Although I had my doubts, I still gave him the benefit of doubt and again this time we could not meet as he was with his wife. But when he went back, he tells me that his wife has decided to come back to him, and thus the earlier decision to get a divorce has been cancelled. This guy who claimed to be a well established respectable businessman turned out to be nothing but a cheap lying cheating scumbag. I stopped communicating with him although I did give him a good piece of my mind and said what I had to. My second experience with an IFF man was just last month. This guy again who claims to be a very high profile person and the Chairman of a so called US30million company. Yes I do know the company name and yes he did not lie about his position but he lied about everything else. Before we met, he kept sending me sms telling me that it was a privilege and honour to be my friend. I did not know who he really was or his position before we met accept that he was a businessman. It was only after we met that I came to know. He kept boasting about himself how good he is, how he loves to help people and even offered me a job in his so called branch office which they were opening in Malaysia in the near future. When we met, he also told me that, he is there for me and will be a good, true and honest friends as I had been very honest with him about all my past dissapointments with all the men in my life who were nothing but liars and cheats just wanting to make use of women. However, this time, because of my past experience, I have learnt never to give anything to a man unless he proofs his words in action. As such, this person did not get anything from me accept approximately 1 hour of my time where we just had a couple of drinks and talked where he tried so hard to convince he how good and honest and helpful he was and how he liked to help people, which of course all turned out to be a big lie. He kept convincing me that he is a good, true and honest friend and will not be like all the other men I have met. He kept telling me that he only wants to give and ask nothing in return. When I left, he again send me an sms telling me that it was a privilege and honour to be my friends. After he went back, that was it, I never heared from him. I did send him a nasty email telling him what exactly I think of him after a month of our meeting. I suppose that he realised Im not one to get easily fooled and give anything to him without ensuring that he is sincere and really honest and a man of his word. And since he did not mean what he said about our friendship but only said it with the hope of getting something out of it, he realised he was wasting his time with all his lies. Anyway, there was no loss to me as there are millions of pathetic losers like him around who lies with the hope of getting something. To ladies out there, please be careful of who you communicate with and never believe anything a man tells you until he proofs it in his actions. If any ladies out there think that you are being fooled by the same persons mentioned above and wish to confirm, you may mail me directly and I will give you all the information in order for you to ensure you are not wasting your time with such low class men who have no integrity. And to all the men out there, it isn't your position or job that makes you what you are, its your character and no matter how high a position you hold, your are still a loser with no class and integrity if you have been lying to women and making promises which you have no intention of keeping, just to get what you want. |
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12/14/2008 5:06 am |
scorpio...ifyou read my profile, I have been very specific what Im looking for and even stated, those not based in KL need not respond as Im not into long distance relationship, but I still get clowns and people who are stupid and have a problem understanding simple english. I even stated clearly Im seeking an LTR, and those looking for friends, chat friends and freebies and time wasters need not respond and still I get tons of mails from people in different countries asking if we can be friends. I dont know how more clear I can be. I guess some people are just too stupid. I ignore such time wasters. And the person concerned was visiting Malaysia, and that was why I made an exception, but anyway I have taught him a very good lesson, one that he will remember every time he tries to cheat and con a woman.
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12/11/2008 8:49 am |
What do u want to find here? If it is someone far from your place, then the chances are that its easier for the opposite sex to weave a web of lies. In case one is looking for a life partner, I feel one should look for someone closer to their hometown where one can cross check the credentials easily. If its only friendship then one should not take anyone's word at face value. As from my experiance, its very hard to find the full nature / trust of a person even after a spread over a number of years.
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10/13/2008 3:53 am |
Tara, please do not worry, I do not have any hard feelings. As far as Im concerned, it was a discussion and I do welcome others opinions as long as it sticks to the topic. I may not agree with how you feel but I respect your right to feel that way. As for what you mentioned about losing a friend due to a misunderstanding, I would feel that if he does not want to be your friend just because of a misunderstanding, then he is not worthy of being a friend. I can understand that its difficult for you because as you said you like him, but I have also had such experience but to me, if the person cannot respect my feelings then I do not want him as a friend. I dont mind if the person wants to advice me, but there is a limit as to whether how much advice I want to accept or listen to. As a friend, I feel I should be able to tell him or her, ok you have said what you want to say but I know what im doing and he should accept it and stop the advice. True friendships dont end just because of a misunderstanding, thats how I feel. I dont expect my friends to agree with me as long as they respect my right to my opinions. Thats all. I dont think you should feel bad about anything. We all react according to our individual experiences in life, thus we all may feel differently about the same issues. I too wish you all the happiness on your own terms, and again, not to worry, I have no hard feelings or feel irritated about the discussion so be cool.
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10/12/2008 10:59 pm |
Charmer, I have been troubled by your reaction after my second last comment and I do wish to rectify it even though I'm aware that my mere presence on your blog has caused you some consternation and irritation. Recently, I lost a friend due to a pure misunderstanding. Out of the blue, he started pressing completely unsolicited advice on me on an area of my life that I didn't see as a problem but evidently, he did. In fact, I'm quite successful in this area in ways I don't see a need to broadcast. I did say to him I understood that the 'advice' came from a good place and out of his concern for me as a friend and I made sure he knew that. It also made me aware that we didn't share the same fundamental values in certain areas. It worried me about the image he had of me that had begun to emerge, which was, frankly, totally wrong. At that point, nothing I said could make him understand that he was beginning to tread all over my feelings because the 'advice' he kept pushing on me was totally irrelevant to this area and showed he simply did not know my situation at all. He simply refused to listen. I have accepted his advice in the past when it was relevant – as I did like and respect him very much like an older brother. In the end, I chose to distance myself from him as pretending to be fine about the situation would have meant compromising my own principles. Similarly, I do understand the effect my words must have had on you and I apologise for that. Please know I do wish you every happiness as you define it, on your own terms. I do. Not anyone else's, including mine. God bless.
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10/11/2008 5:14 am |
Tara is Great
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10/8/2008 11:55 am |
charmer I come here for time pass & I was looking for trustworthy sis here but, now given up as its all virtual.   so if u face me don take me serious ok.  god bless u
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10/2/2008 3:31 am |
thanx for sharing ..but not all males at iff are liars ..most are there for a chat only ..its sad you got hurt and really its hard to know who to trust.. as your checking men out well i agree with you do that as far as possible..best of luck
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9/18/2008 5:35 am |
Tara, now you have gone on to cultural differences which again is a totally different issue, as you are talking about asking the person personal questions directly which westerners do not usually do, unlike asians. Again out of the topic. Anyway Im just going to say this. Any really honest person who is well educated and well travelled will understand and will not mind having his basic details being confirmed as he will understand that these days there are many liars around and if contemplating a serious relationship, obviously even he would want to know the truth about the person, for instance she may tell him she is a secretary when in actual fact she may be a stripper. Only a person who has something to hide will feel offended, as there is no reason for anyone to expect a person to believe everything they say the first time they meet if the idea of the meeting is for a long term relationship. Whats is there to feel offended. There is absolutely no reason to feel offended unless the details the person was trying to find out was what colour panties you are wearing. I know your undie draws was an analogy and I again saying that when one does a check, its done casually and not as an investigation as what you are suggesting. No one hires a private investigator to get such basic details of someone. And lastly, sorry but I disagree with you. I think all good honest people will not mind the person they intend having a relationship with doing a casual check on what they have told as they will understand that no one wants to get cheated and since they have nothing to hide, there is no reason for them to find out if they are working in a certain office or if they are married. No one is talking about taking someone space, but simple details as what was mentioned in my earlier comment.
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9/18/2008 4:56 am |
I AGREE TO U ALL. ONLY TRUST YOURSELF! THOSE WHO TRUST OTHERS, ARE ALWAYS CHEATED ? The GOD in ME greets The GOD in U.
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9/18/2008 4:08 am |
Of course it's your blog. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. I accept I didn't make myself clear enough to you. I wish to leave this without animosity or other ill feeling. I was NOT talking about your going through my undie drawer at all. It was an analogy about the feeling of intrusion other good, honest folk may feel whose personal values are slightly different from yours, even if they have nothing to hide. This does not mean they are asking to be taken advantage of by the dishonest out there either. Yes, you had already made the point that the man you decide on should not mind being checked up on as you don't. It's a matter of finding someone whose personal values are compatible with yours. Not all good, honest people think the same way as you nor would appreciate being investigated. Your profile also states you're looking for a Western or a north Indian man. The Western sense of personal boundaries, space and freedom is different from Asian ones, very generally speaking. I have always been an introvert, spent many years in the UK. While I do understand why, I don't accept for myself the 'in your face' type questions that relative strangers (Singaporean) regard as normal, but intrusive and disrespectful by Westerners. My values are not typically 'all-Asian' nor 'all-European' but they are NOT unique. Western friends living in Asia are also commonly taken aback by this aspect of the culture. They may understand it more the longer they've been in Asia but their core value systems and sense of privacy and freedom do not change that much. There's no hard and fast definition, people belonging to one culture are different from one another, even within the same families. I'm not saying one culture is better over the other. I was not saying you shouldn't protect yourself. But just trying to suggest that you may have lost some good, honest people before either of you even have had a proper chance only because they were a bit different from you and just didn't want their space intruded upon. I'd still like to thank you for your warnings for women as the dangers you've described both on and offline are very real. And your suggested precautions and measures. It's food for thought. In case all that wasn't clear to you before. I had a glance through a number of PI services both in Singapore and India for my own future reference. “Premarital investigation” as a separate listing is still far less common than general “employee background check” and “marital infidelity” in Singapore, but appears more common in India. In the UK, it's called “pre-relationship investigation”. Cheers.
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9/17/2008 8:53 pm |
Tara, Im actually amazed at how you always take the blog out of its context and make it into a totally different meaning and start an argument on it. In the first place, my blog started of being one which talks about men who lie. The you mentioned about checking up on the person despite the fact that no where in the blog that was ever mentioned, but I still replied just to make things clear since you mentioned it. My reply was stictly to check up if the person is who he says he is as before starting a relationship with someone you obviously need to know at the basic things about him and if he claims to be divorced or separated, whether he really is or not as in the case of the first first guy I mentioned. Now you are jumping into having people poking into your kitchen cabinets and undie drawers. What has doing this got to do with my blog in the first place. Its a totally different issue. From where to where you have brought this issue. Would appreciate you stick to the subject as that makes it easier for discussion purpose. If you have issues about someone poking into your personal stuff in your house, maybe you should write about it and let people comment about it there as thats not what the topic or issue of this blog is. I still stand by my statement that one should find out the basic details about someone before getting too deep into it. Basic details should be his real age, where he works, his position, marital status and if he says he is separated or divorced, whether its true and what is the real reason for separation or divorce as before getting into a relationship, we would want to ensure that the person is not a violent person or have any other extreme bad habits. This are important things, not poking into someones draw or kitchen cabinet. Anyway, as this is not the topic of my blog, I will stop here and will not elaborate further.
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9/17/2008 4:03 am |
*meet, typo.
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9/17/2008 3:59 am |
Charmer, Yes, I accept that you've got nothing to hide. (I also have to ask: At what point do you go checking up on a person? Are you upfront and say you're about to do so beforehand? Even if a person has nothing to hide, some would consider that confrontational and a violation of privacy. Having said that, anecdotally, I would say in my experience honest men are actually quite ok with mild interrogation if you keep the questions light, polite, factual and unemotional.) Yes, I agree with your point on evasiveness. As I commented recently in a post that was deleted by the blogger (you know who you are): When a person can't give a straight answer and starts trying to even justify with pseudo philosophical claptrap why he won't divulge basic, unalterable facts about himself such as age, marital/dating status, physical statistics on a dating profile, you know they haven't got an honest agenda and take everyone they met on a dating site as people undeserving of respect, to be toyed with and discarded. The point I'm trying to make is not quite the same. I have nothing to hide either. I've got more skeletons than the Natural History Museum, if anyone has got the stomach for a personal tour with the curator, but I wouldn't appreciate someone poking into my kitchen cabinets and rifling through my undie drawer either, so to speak, without an expressed invite. I regard it the same way many Singaporeans on visiting your home for the first time without so much as asking go on a walkabout, or even when they do ask it's in a flippant way and they're already on their way to inspecting your house. It's very rude. (I don't get that sort of guests any more – I have a feeling it's my crazed look and hunchback that deters the casual visitor.)  @ ball picker. Jaysus. Actually, my own red flag would be raised by anyone who plays golf, but then I'm talking about something else altogether.  I'm surprised that the red flag wasn't immediately raised with your own Mum, 3rd brother and two sisters when they knew about the drunk. I don't want to make any assumptions but it's bad enough that overall societal expectations and values are generally very negative and very low for women over 35. Here's another example of how they've seeped into and are entrenched in the collective consciousness: A divorced woman acquaintance of mine, aged 42, received a bouquet of flowers from an admirer. Her seven-year-old daughter demanded: “Does HE know how OLD you are or not and that you got three children?[sic]” Not sure if she was just repeating what she's heard from other grownups around her talking or from her own peers. This same acquaintance has expressed undisguised gobsmacked disbelief at my dating life, “Wah, not bad, ah! Still got market value!” (I guess that answers my previous question about her daughter.) I don't even go into the details with that particular circle of mostly married women as the interaction while friendly, is superficial and mind numbingly conventional in some ways.
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9/17/2008 1:06 am |
ffguide... Thanks for your comment, yes as I have stated there are also women who lie to a man. But being a woman, I can only talk about my experiences with men, and will also share any bad experience with women I have had. I have never said that all men are bad and all women are good. There are good and bad in both genders. But as a general rule, there are more bad men who lie and cheat than there are women.
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9/17/2008 1:03 am |
Eden..thanks for your comments and glad you found some decent friends here. Personally for friends, I prefer females and not males as most males as to what I have experienced usually have ulterior motives.
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9/17/2008 12:20 am |
Tara, just to elaborate more about your comment. As an example, recently there was a proposal for me from a Divorcee who is a well placed professional, which came through my mum. The go in between lady claimed that the wife divorced him only because he drank alot. My mother and 3rd brother and 2 of my sisters tried to convince me that this is not a problem as he is a good provider etc, etc and wanted me to meet him. However, I was not convinced as I said if he is a good provider, and his only fault is drinking, which woman in her right mind would divorce him. They already have one son. My brother even went on to convince me that he is good because he admitted his fault and did not blame his wife. I suspected that there was more to it, and probably he could be one of those who drank and got violent and beat up his wife, or he could be one of those men who let his family members control his life hence creating problems between his wife and him. I know that if I were married to a man who provides well for me and has no other fault accept drinking, I will not divorce him as the fact is that most women want a man who can provide her with security. This matter created lots of tension between my sister, me and mum as they all wanted me to meet him without finding out further details. Then they got my eldest brother to speak to me, who was not aware that they guy is an alcoholic. He was trying to convince me about it and when I explained to him that this guy is an alcoholic, he immediately asked me who told me as he was not informed of that. When I told him my 3rd brother had told me, he immediately said, if the guy is an alcoholic, then leave it, there is no need to meet him. Of course he was smart enough to know that a marriage does not end just because a guy drinks, there is more to it. So obviously in such a situation, even if I were to agree to meet him, I would want to do a through check on him and the real reason for his divorce, whether he has beaten his wife, etc etc. As humans we all should understand, there is nothing wrong in finding out if the person is who he says he is before getting involved with him. A friend of mine, received a call from a guy and he told her he was calling from the golf course and gave the impression that he is a member of the golf course. Naturally she thought, he probably must be someone well placed and who plays golf. Later she found out, he was working at the gold course as a ball picker. Good thing she did a check. I have also many friends who have received calls from men claiming to be so and so which were all lies. If after you are in a relationship and then the person does not trust you, yes then I agree because he should have at least ask you directly if he had any doubts and believed you unless he had a very good and valid evidence with which he should have confronted your directly with and give you a chance to explain. But when you just get to know someone, there is no way of knowing if he is telling the truth about himself. So its always good to do a check. If a man is evasive and does not want to give details about himself, that already shows he has something to hide. Its best to stay away from such men.
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9/16/2008 11:34 pm |
Tara, I have no problem with having my background checked out as I have always been totally honest with everyone. I do not lie about myself and I can safely say that whatever I tell someone about myself can be considered the gospel truth. I have nothing to hide as to me I believe a person should accept me for who I am if he wants me. If he is going to let my past get in the way, then I myself do not want him. Everyone has a past, and the problem why many relationships break down is because people let the past affect their future. In fact if a man is serious about me, there is every reason for him to check me out just as I would want to check him out. As an intelligent person, we should understand that there are many fakes and frauds, and as long as we are not one of them, there should be no reason for us to fear anyone checking us out. We only fear if we have lied, which I dont. HOpe that answers your question.
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9/16/2008 10:56 pm |
KLcharmer-Thanks for the clarification!! U r an intelligent lady and will take care!!It is a good idea that u r using this-media to spread more and more awareness!!--
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9/16/2008 10:15 pm |
Nkskl, Sorry for putting you in a spot - it's not about your using the home PC. I was referring to an IM session we had in private about a subject that bothered me indirectly. I should have clarified with you there and then. If a person has given me enough cause to suspect him where I want to investigate him it almost certainly means that there is already a pervading atmosphere of distrust in that relationship that will never really go away. If a man were to do the same of me which is his right to, this would create uncertainty and doubt in me of his view of me as a person where none existed before and I'm not sure I could carry on with him. Even if he invited me to do the same. It would leave a very bad taste in my mouth, I would take it as an expression of his lack of confidence in my character and akin to a violation of my privacy.
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9/16/2008 10:08 pm |
Charmer, You have articulated a general fear that I'm sure has always been at the back of people's minds at the least, both female and male. I have to ask though, how would you feel yourself if your background were checked out the same way you have described, by a man you were going out with? Lying is not restricted to the married – there are infinite and less tangible ways to lie, bend, manipulate and omit the truth.
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9/16/2008 8:51 pm |
Candy, yes you are right, they dont like the taste of their own medicine. As I have mentioned, now no guy gets anything from me unless he has something to offer me and he proofs his words by his action. I dont even give my time to men until they proof it, and it really pisses them off as finally they realise their lies are not working and they are not going to get anything from me until they give first.
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9/16/2008 8:48 pm |
nksl.I dont agree with you. Firstly for a woman to be able to read a man's intention, she would have had to experience it before as being a human its only normal to take a person's word unless proven otherwise. But when you have been through the lies, you will learn not to trust people so easily, its experience that makes one smart. Also the issue is not about getting his office number, residence or mobile number. I knew all those things about the guys I dated. The issue is about men no necessarily married only lying and making false promises to a woman just to fool her and make use of her. Yes I agree women too are to be blamed for being so gullible. But when people cheat someone o purpose and knowingly, that reflects on their bad character no matter what position they may be holding. For instance, the second guy I met from IFF, yes he is a chairman of the company, I have even checked out the company website and his name is listed as the chairman. But fortunately for me because of my past experience, All I gave him was about an hour of my time despite the fact that he tried so hard to convince me that he was sincere and would be a true friend, so there was no loss to me. Hope this makes my blog more clear as to what message Im trying to give.
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9/16/2008 8:39 pm |
Edwin, I dont know what u are trying to say, maybe you should buck up on your english. And maybe you care to elaborate in which country its illegal to cheat on your spouse. I know only a couple of states in America has made it illegal to have extra marital affairs, but have not heard of any country actually making it illegal to have extra marital affairs. If that is the case, many men and even some woman will be behind bars and the jails will not be enough. And again either you are not reading my statements fully or you have a problem understanding it. I did say there are always exceptions but generally speaking is based on most women's experience. Also the topic is about women being lied to and cheated by men and has nothing to do with married men or women having affairs. That topic was covered in a previous blog.
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9/16/2008 8:28 pm |
Charmer..... u seem to be quite right... did face such a problem in Ork^^8tarted stalking me like a maniac, but have a couple of frds of both genders in here, who have been till date very understanding and decency beyond doubt.... do hope things will improve with u n better be careful.....at your end. Flirting in cyberia is friendly ,fun n safe
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9/16/2008 10:16 am |
Tara-There seems to be little confusion again!!What I meant was the following- - Please give yourself Time to understand a person-- - A Extra Smart lady like u(Unfortunately most of the ladies use their heart and not Mind) will read his intentions for sure-- -I agree it is not possible to investigate into the deep--but there are some set procedures to be followed (to little extent--For example in this case one can always ask for a business card which has at lest some details like office phone number--his office address--SIMPLY CALL HIS OFFICE IN INDIA OR WHERE EVER HE BELONGS--AND WITH SOME EXCUSE TAKE HIS RESIDENCE PHONE NUMBER--CALL HIS HOME AND ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND OUT SO MANY UNSAID / HIDDEN STORY)in case the discussions have almost come to become a life partner!! - ""You seem to be saying we should assume all men on IFF are liars.""--NO I never meant this--and WHO I AM TO conclude this-- I sincerely FEEL that most of the people here are good -- -""technically you may not have 'cheated' on your spouse"" I am now little confused of the definition!!??""offline life found out you were here""" Mostly I use my Home computer to be here!!!No problem as such--Anyway thanks for your feelings I appreciate the depth in your arguments !!!!
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9/16/2008 7:50 am |
i dont wanted to go into deep? While go thru your blog, its just that u make IFF mens mostly lies here....I not deny >? Take even your case. He said he is married but due to un healthy relationship caused him to contact or search another women. which is not legally permitted or morale wise admited. But some way you fall in his statements. Its happy other wise as well........ Lets take an example, of Mr. Clinton ex President of U.S.A. Dont he he cheated his wife? Root reason for such something else that to eradicate, our society and our religious bindings and so on have to change? SOrry for writting this...i felt its a general statement against men not against "LIES IN IFF either" So I respond such way Beware in future
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 9/16/2008 6:13 am |
Candy...yes you are right, and despite being so careful, I still was lied to.
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9/16/2008 4:43 am |
Anamika..thanks for your comments.
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9/16/2008 4:42 am |
rommel...thanks for your comments. While I do disagree with you on the issue of the wife not understanding the men, as I do know for a fact there are also many selfish women who only wants what they want and do not care about the husbands needs, I do agree that there are more liars than honest men here who say that. But anyway, that is why now I do not give anything to a man who has nothing to offer me. That way, both are satisfied.
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9/16/2008 4:39 am |
diamond...yes you are right. Any you know what, many of the guys, those not from iff who did that, later came back telling me I was the best and they wanted another chance. But I told them to go fly kites as I did not want them anymore.
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9/16/2008 4:37 am |
Candy...yes you are right, and despite being so careful, I still was lied to.
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9/16/2008 4:36 am |
nkskl...lol, no your name is not on the list. Thanks for your comments, however, people become smart by learning from experiences. Sometimes we give a person the benefit of doubt, and sometimes, we have to take certain risk. So you cant say that 'how come a smart woman can get cheated because a person only becomes smart by experiencing all these which I have and yes now I can say I am very smart and will never get cheated again. That is why the second guy gave up because he knew he was not going to get anything from me without first keeping his promises. And thats why its no loss to me as he is useless to me. Its not just this 2 guys, but many others. The reason why I only mentioned these 2 is because they are from IFF and may be trying to fool other women here, thus to warn those unsuspecting women, I posted my experience. I did not post this to get pity or sympathy, but to warn other women.
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9/16/2008 4:08 am |
Nkskl, It's called taking a person on their word but being on your guard. I have protected myself and been as sensible as humanly possible, without being paranoid. If the man eventually shows himself up to be an ar*ehole, I certainly wouldn't have been the one who lost 'face'. And I certainly wouldn't be calling the people who could only "pity" me my friends. How can you ensure a person is 100% proof unless you go to the extreme of demanding to see where they live, checking all their personal effects, submitting them to interrogation, threat of bodily harm or even death? You seem to be saying we should assume all men on IFF are liars. Then ask yourself would you be embarrassed, make excuses, cover up if anyone in your 'real' offline life found out you were here (even though technically you may not have 'cheated' on your spouse) and do you secretly make the same assumption about ALL the women here, even the ones you've called your "friends"?
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9/16/2008 3:50 am |
i agree with rommel..nice post sissy   Anamika5
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9/16/2008 2:30 am |
Dear Charming...i can understand what u had been through but at the sametime i don;t wann to comment on this ...because this can be happened to anyone of any gender.Hope u get my point
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9/16/2008 1:57 am |
Any man who approaches a woman saying his wife doesn't understand him is lying. Rest assured, he is just looking for a good time with no strings. You will find many such guys here.
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9/16/2008 1:47 am |
charmer dear.....wy iff ,this world is full of cheats n liars n shameless men,who lie and scheme and lead a pathetic life .....i agree with u ,women must be careful of such creeps and cheats n kick them in the right place where it hurts most....so that they remember wen they go to cheat another woman.....best wishes n huggs.....
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9/16/2008 12:08 am |
There are so many men that lie on IFF.
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9/15/2008 11:47 pm |
THANKS GOOOOOOOOD MY NAME IS NOT IN THE LIST!!!!!(Any one relieved!) By the way I do not just understand--WHY AND WHY AND WHY--Smart ladies like you had to fall for these person/s Again and again and again !!!!I am sure even after reading this article of yours many other will fall into trap of some so called clean person OR tired from his wife !!!!Thinking that OH--This person is OK and she is sure about it-- and HE is NOT like the one KLcharmer met!! And later repent!! Why u ladies are so eager to give in every thing in such a hurry !!!---and that son of a bitch will walk out of your life with a crooked smile ---and adding one more pray to his credit!! ----JUST BLAME YOUR SELF--NO PITY---
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9/15/2008 11:43 pm |
Edwin, I dont understand what you mean, I dont even know what the sentence 'men are pitty' means, but if you mean what I think you mean, I never said all women are good, there are lots of bad women too who lie and cheat men. But my contention is that men who get cheated by such women deserve it as they dont appreciate a good woman when they have her. Instead they lie and cheat such women only to have another woman do the same thing to them. They never appreciate an honest and straightforward woman, as such women seem to affect their ego, as they dont want to accept the truth. Of course this statement is just a general statement where men are concerned, there are always exceptions. And as a woman, I will talk about my experiences with men, while men will talk about their experiences with women. In any case, I hardly ever chat, even when I went into the lobby, it was just for a few minutes and mostly to say hi to some people I know. I dont recall saying whatever you said I said, as what you are saying does not make much sense. And when I pass a statement, I always make sure it makes sense.
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9/15/2008 11:21 pm |
Though this message for women, showing how men are lying or liers here in iff... I still remember your words that ..."man are pittty as men can't see inner heart of women and how women fooling him around" this u talked like a statement years ago in lobby....But i am sorry i cant prove it this ...
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